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Argument: ROM data , Reference: generic , Closed by: root
kiczek @ 2008-11-25 22:42:00

If this game was working it should have been numbered but it was nuked almost seconds after release

No other site has it numbered and adding crc32 info for obvious shit is retarted
kazumi213 @ 2008-11-26 04:12:33

Please, avoid using that kind of language to communicate here and save it for your punk fellows.

Nevertheless I agree that current "Music Monstars" entry should be removed from DAT.
kiczek @ 2008-11-26 04:37:19

sorry i was refferring to the ROM being bad. Also the order is wrong as well

Who_Wants_To_Be_A_Millionaire_2nd_Edition_EUR_NDS-XPA got released 11h 51m 46s ago [NDS]
Clever_Kids_Pirates_EUR_NDS-XPA got released 11h 51m 50s ago [NDS]
Clever_Kids_Farmyard_Fun_EUR_NDS-XPA got released 11h 51m 57s ago [NDS]
Age_Of_Empires_Mythologies_USA_NDS-XPA got released 11h 52m 45s ago [NDS]
Layton_Kyouju_to_Saigo_no_Jikan_Ryokou_JPN_NDS-Caravan got released 19h 33m 53s ago [NDS]
The_Legend_Of_Spyro_Dawn_Of_The_Dragon_EUR_MULTI6_NDS-VORTEX got released 1d 4h 21m 12s ago [25/11/2008] [NDS]
1000_Bornes_FRA_NDS-VORTEX got released 1d 4h 27m 35s ago [25/11/2008] [NDS]
101_In_1_Games_EUR_MULTI6_NDS-VORTEX got released 1d 4h 28m 44s ago [25/11/2008] [NDS]
Monster_Lab_EUR_MULTI6_NDS-VORTEX got released 1d 4h 30m 20s ago [25/11/2008] [NDS]
Moto_Racer_DS_EUR_NDS-XPA got released 1d 11h 14m 1s ago [25/11/2008] [NDS]
kazumi213 @ 2008-11-26 11:11:43

I also agree with your relative order, except for Layton.

While I can't really state that we are following a specific and common source for numbering, since quite hundreds releases ago the used numbering here essentially matches the relative order by Ludibria. According to it Layton should be at bottom of your list. I saw it listed there before any other. How's that possible according to your numbers, I don't know.

I'm not saying Ludibria is always right (I don't know) but I've seen many numbering discussions for which Ludibria was using correct relative order in the first place.
kiczek @ 2008-11-26 19:00:08

http://www.ludibria.com/index.php?sys=faq#6

6) Q: Why is the ordering of the releases on Ludibria different to other websites?
A: The first nfo uploaded to Ludibria will be listed first. The primary goal of Ludibria is to offer nfo-files, so there is no pre-bot liked handling of these releases.

So although sometimes it tends to be correct it's not in this case
kazumi213 @ 2008-11-27 03:43:00

Well, I just try to do my best regarding relative order. I have no access to the dates in your reply so unless someone here doesn't agree with your order I will implement your numbering changes.

This will be my last numbering change as I clearly lack the required resources to accurately deal with it.
xuom2 @ 2008-11-27 10:01:40

numbering: we will add PRE data, and numbers will follow that.
PH numbering is not a standard, a lot of places around use our numbering and not their.
in these days I am working on a 100% match with ludibria, which is not perfect and I am reporting some strange entries to D.

when we removed the bad dump of Line Rider 2 Unbound (USA), people asked to readd it with the OLD, original number. now we should start with a "Line Rider -like" discussion again. numbers are not my priority.

you can EDIT a text file..
Connie @ 2008-11-27 10:44:51

I don't know why you're even bothering with the numbers.

No offense to those involved with the hardwork in trying to keep up with a numbered 'order', but I've quite a number of dumps not matching the same numbered ordering. Since the GBA dat doesn't match the scene numbering (due to hacked/bad/translated dumps being removed), why bother with numbers? I thought the whole point to them was to accurately match a release order.

It's evidence that there are too many different 'scene' order lists and even those with 'top level' FTP access couldn't give an accurate order based on time/date stamp because it would depend on what dumps were propagated to which servers first, and therefore the order that they 'finished' uploading.

Presumably you'll continue with numbering so just stick to the same site for your release order. Otherwise, using other sites/input is just going to lead to a meaningless order of numbering.

Just my few pence worth. :)
xuom2 @ 2008-11-27 22:24:39

I removed the bad dump, fixed the numbers adopting K's list.